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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by docchevron132 » 06 Dec 2009

OR any pictures at all!
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Philhod » 06 Dec 2009

Seeing as there aren't any yet, that would be just the one then :lol:

I have no camera since I retired. Must go and buy one next week. 8)
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Philhod » 06 Dec 2009

:D Got the 2 mating parts out now. Just as much wear on the female end.

It's even more confusing that they thought that such a flimsy joint would transmit so much
power, now I can see the rest of the drive train. It's built like a brick shithouse!!!

The plan now will be to reverse the male and female ends. If I machine 4 slots diametrically opposite, into the female end, 6 mm wide. Then make 4 keys a driven fit on the width x depth enuff to be 3mm short of the inside dia of the male bit.
Then TIG weld them in from the outside and turn the OD back to original size.

The male end then would have 4 keyways m/cn'd in it, 6 mm wide, the depth being 3 mm short of the inside dia.
It should all slide back together as before, the driven surface should be around 4 mm+ which should be well sufficient as I will be using nickel steel for the keys.
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by David » 06 Dec 2009

Sounds like a decent fix! There is also the concen about lubrication, as I was under the impression that a lot of the wear in that area was caused by a lack of lubrication, meaning the splines fretting against each other caused massive wear.

Does it look like anything can be done to improve lubrimacations?
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Post by Philhod » 07 Dec 2009

Lubrication is not an issue as the whole point of their design, is that once the splines lock together, there is no need of lubrication as nothing moves.
It was a good idea but just not big enuff, mine will work on the same principle of almost zero clearances,and a firm push fit, as all the carrier brgs are on the outside of this tube, are very sturdy and have plenty of lube.
The carrier brg nearest the joint on this one has some play in it, it's a quite big taper roller unit
bigger than the other end, the outer cage is 55 mm ID up to 65 mm dia and 12 mm wide.
As this has worn slightly it's allowed the splines to do also with subsequent result, you can see the bright wear on the nose of the present male end where it has rubbed inside the tube.

Both these boxes seem to have been apart before. The main g/box extension has marks on it, traces of liquid gasket and one of the attaching bolts has had ptfe tape added to the threads.
On the transfer box, although the drive train is in many parts, it's all held together by the brgs
and locked in place by a double C finger clamp, it's self secured by a roll pin, through a boss on the spring loaded selector rod.
Some cowboy has been trying to remove the finger clamp without drawing the roll pin.
Fortunately they haven't done any damage and after I pulled it apart I filed the bits up nice and tidy :wink:
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Vanny » 07 Dec 2009

Hmmm, if only there where some pictures then it might all make sence.



PS i bet Gregzee has a phone on his camera!
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by docchevron132 » 08 Dec 2009

Doubt there's any memory left on his phone with all that banging tunage..
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Post by Philhod » 08 Dec 2009

:lol: :lol: I'll go buy a camera later this week.

Gregzee just may have a phone but his memory's fucked.!! Since he started work he's forgotten where our house is :wink:
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Post by docchevron132 » 08 Dec 2009

Well, lets be fair to the lad, all that shagging AND a job, the poor lad must be knackered!
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Post by Philhod » 08 Dec 2009

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ....erm yes!
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Philhod » 26 Feb 2010

:lol: After fighting duff computery equipment and my own ignorance, I have managed to get pictures of the offending bitz on to here :)

Unfortunately they will not load into a post for some reason so I've managed to put them into the garage under the guise of a 2011 yugo ( my joke)
If you right click, open them in a new window and you get a nice big view. 8)
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Vanny » 26 Feb 2010

Thats an interesting way to fill the server.

The pictures are only screen shots, if i click them then they are broken links. I think this place you have uploaded them to is for making tshirts etc and does not let outsiders view the pictures.

I would strongly suggest you use photobucket!
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Post by Philhod » 27 Feb 2010

If you just click on them only the pixum logo appears.

If you right click and open in new window all becomes clear.
I didn't get a choice with Pixum Bastard AOL migrated everyones pics there and sold out to them :x It's a Kraut outfit!!!!!

Yahoo has a repositary, I think I'll try to move them over :roll:

Unless anyone has a better suggestion??
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Vanny » 27 Feb 2010

Opening in a new window does naff all, probably because i'm not linked into your account.


On the storage thing;
i have a much better suggestion,

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Post by docchevron132 » 27 Feb 2010

/\ have to agree there, botophucket is brill!
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Bx Bandit » 27 Feb 2010

Philhod wrote::lol: After fighting duff computery equipment and my own ignorance, I have managed to get pictures of the offending bitz on to here :)

Unfortunately they will not load into a post for some reason so I've managed to put them into the garage under the guise of a 2011 yugo ( my joke)
If you right click, open them in a new window and you get a nice big view. 8)
where are they then you useless mofo?
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Vanny » 27 Feb 2010

there is a clue in phils post, click onto his Garage (button at the bottom of Phil's post), then click on '2011 yugo', the pictures are tiny and quite frankly i can't make out much.
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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Philhod » 27 Feb 2010

8) -Right !! botophucket it is then :)
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Post by Philhod » 27 Feb 2010

:x Err I'll try again from photobucket this time


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Re: 4x4 bitz

Post by Vanny » 27 Feb 2010

I tells you what phil, your getting soooo much better at this!
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