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[Philhod]

Yes it's odd that. K 39 has the grey as well???

[Philhod]

Yes it's odd that. K 39 has the grey as well???

[docchevron132]

seems an odd indercoat for a red. I mean black, ok, fair enough, but red?

[Philhod]

All the painters will tell you yellow is the best undercoat for all reds.

I was watching that american hot rod series and they used pale yellow for cherry red.

[docchevron132]

thats interesting.. I really should restore the red one soon, it's getting awfully pink and frilly round the edges.

[Philhod]

I'm afraid the cream only works on the pink bitz. It's not much use for the frilly 's

[docchevron132]

Have a pair of Mig's that scare the bejesus out of frilly bits so it's cool!

[Bx Bandit]

My neighbours non metallic red car isn't pink, it's red!

[Philhod]

Mine and Gregzee's BX is red and not pink

[Bx Bandit]

touchez Mr Turtle! But, you put after market slush on-a-top of your paintwork. What my neighbour got? Clear lacquer??? or may be it's to do with modern water based paints not fading????

[Philhod]

That's the reason Bandit. Not so much the water based paints, they just give a much wider choice of shades as well as being environmentally friendly.
The answer is in the lacquers that have been developed for covering the paint.
The best (and most expensive ) have a very tough finish, with a composition that protects against , well, almost anything. Cheaper ones being less tough and less protective but still better than what has gone before.

[Fish_Botherer]

I'd swear that most of the venetian red BXs I've owned had a white undercoat. Leastways, that's what was revealed by bonnet stone chips. I know the underlying colour of the bonnet material is white, but I'm fairly sure I've seen white revealed on stone-

[Philhod]

If they are all the same FB, it's a pale grey colour underneath.

Having burned it off with weld on,....err.... many occasions.

[Bx Bandit]

That's the reason Bandit. Not so much the water based paints, they just give a much wider choice of shades as well as being environmentally friendly.
The answer is in the lacquers that have been developed for covering the paint.

Well that's where I started dude! That by applying a lacquer to a ven red BX, the shiney redness will stay!

[Philhod]

Yes but yours is acrylic. The lacquers bond with water based, I'm not sure if it would "take"
over acrylic. The lacquer coat costs almost as much as a full respray.
My offered solution requires one hard work session, then cheap upkeep.

[Bx Bandit]

The lacquer on the Xantia (metallic) wasn't water based as it was pre water based paint etc, so you can get acrylic (wouldn't it be cellulose in 1990?) based lacquers. As you say mate, a full respray of lacquer is more than your 'magic juice' (shudders at the thought..........) but once done, it's done.

Not saying it's what I'm gonna do mind, but as I have a few panels to respray, it might be worth lacquering the ones I can remove from the car and pay the bit extra for the bits I can't remove....

[Philhod]

Acrylics were coming in around 84 and in general use (not by all) 2 years later.
You can get aresol clear for acrylics but it is not as hard as the new types.